Wheelchair-accessible car park
Yes
Jiffy Lube in Patchogue
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Patchogue, Suffolk County, New York, US
Accessibility
Wheelchair-accessible entrance
Yes
Wheelchair-accessible toilet
Yes
Offerings
Oil change
Yes
Amenities
Mechanic
Yes
Toilets
Yes
Phone: +1 631-447-5021
Site: https://www.jiffylube.com/locati...
Site: https://www.jiffylube.com/locati...
Opening hours
- Monday:8AM–6PM
- Tuesday:8AM–6PM
- Wednesday:8AM–6PM
- Thursday:8AM–6PM
- Friday:8AM–6PM
- Saturday:8AM–6PM
- Sunday:8AM–5PM
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Comments (199)
Very professional and knowledgeable of my vehicle polite and prompted service.The team was very careful with my vehicle and their communication was very friendly great location if you were need of aOil change and other services they offer give them a try I recommend them highly
Kaleb and cj both took great care when servicing my car they topped off all of my fluids cleaned the front window and also checked my tires the service was extremely fast unbelievably good work put out by these young men i recommend this Jiffylube to everyone there definitely the best and most professional
They were very helpful over the phone. Told me when the best time to arrive. Also very polite.👍👍⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐😊
Outstanding customer service by ALL the guys. Would def recommend! Very professional...
Friendly staff, in and out service. Tires rotated, oil change, fluids topper off and wipers replaced in 36min.
The service is not at all what it used to be back in the day. No vaccuming, no cleaning of any of the windows, no offering of other services. No feedback on anything that might or could be wrong with visual observation above or below my vehicle. I thought they might had noticed a dripping of power steering fluid in the pit when they pulled the oil filter out. The fluid has been dripping for weeks, and needs attention very soon. No feedback from them whatsoever.
Quick and easy oil change. Would be nice if they had a waiting room area but no biggie.
As soon as I pulled up someone greeted me and let me know where I should park and took done what I need done today. He let me know there is s small wait time. But I’m next in line to get the oil change I came to get for my wife’s galant
CJ and his team were great to deal with. Highly recommend.
Very professional courteous and great guys I go there all the time for my oil change and was treated very nice I asked questions and their answers was very helpful if it was more stars I would give them 10 plus Guys Thanks A Million and keep up the good work.
My first time going here to get a oil change ,The staff are every good when it comes to customer service and really explain everything to you. Price are affordable thank you
Great spot! Always a little worried about chain service stores but was chasing some extra airline miles. Staff was all very friendly. They answered my questions and actually told me not to get a certain service because I didnt need it. They were all very professional and efficient. I never felt like they forgot about me or I was just another sale.They went out of their way to wish me a happy and healthy New Year. I will most definitely be back.
Unprofessional, As I pull up into the shop before I can roll my window down the young man started yelling tell me “buddy pay attention” quite confused I said young man very rude not even a good morning, walks away and said am not going to serve you. My kids are in the back jaw down shocked like huh, spoke to other workers they could care less laughing in the office. Pull a block a away Called the store, left on hold for 30 minutes, finally wrote to corporate. All I wanted was oil change to use some high school kid yell at me for no reason and refused to service me. The persons who this store put a bunch of high school kids to run the shop. Just un professional. Pure comedy show but am not laughing.
They failed to properly secure a plastic shroud underneath the engine compartment
Service with a smile.. Very polite and efficient
I could give them a zero rating, I would. They took advantage of my 19 year old daughter. She told them no synthetic oil handed them a sticker from the previous oil change. Giovanni the manager told me when I called him later that she never told him that and acted like they were doing her a favor by putting in High mileage oil at a cheaper price. Her 2006 Hyundai has 68,000 miles on it. I have a 2008 Nissan Pathfinder that has 160,000 miles on it and I use regular oil. This guy was so condescending to me personally because I am a woman I dont know what Im talking about. Do me a favor Avoid this place at all costs...They will screw you for the money and act like they are doing you a favor.
Extremely garbage service. Went 2 hours before work to get a quick oil change and was waiting for an hour and 45 minutes before deciding to just leave. Employees were standing around vaping and talking to eachother.
This place is awesome, the entire staff is so super professional every time i go there I know what to expect and I am in and I am out of there. Last time I got some of the best help I ever got from Jason. He was so knowledgeable about all of the products and even helped me with questions about how my cars indicator lights and electronic systems work. Thanks to Jason and Jiffy Lube for making my day. See you again with my sons car real soon.
The team was really nice i came in with my new car trying to see if my oil change was due the team then took a look at my whole car changed the oil and was excellent when describing services they offered and my manufacture recommendations they topped off all the fluids and the air in the tires
Best price and fast oil changes
Ive never sat in the car during an oil change before but it was great! The guys were very nice & answered all my questions. I definitely recommend & will be going back
Excellent experience. In and out in no time, made getting the oil change painless. 👍
Wow!!! I’m am extremely impressed by the rapid service I received today. Marty’s customer service was courteous and professional. The price was great but the 15 minutes it took the Jiffy Lube team to complete my oil change felt unreal! When I left I still couldn’t believe it. I will definitely return for my next oil change. Thanks again !!🤗
The guy drop slammed my hood from the highest position while i sat inside the car. they didnt vacuum or top off any extra services and it cost 103 for full synthetic! your better off doing it yourself for 40 -50 bucks
Whole crew Antonio, Kyle, Kaleb, and George worked on my Dodge Journey were amazing. Great customer service and double checked everything for a road trip. Thank you guys!!! We’ll be back soon!!
Wanted an oil change and tire rotation. Apparently they were unable to do the tire rotation. Also were not very knowledgeable on the different types of oil and the mileage for semi synthetic, synthetic and fully synthetic. I was looking for 1 year or 10,000 miles life out of the oil which Smithtown Toyota has been scheduling oil changes at those intervals. They had the employees available so dont know why they wouldnt do the tire rotation.
Absolutely best experience. Dave, and Thomas, who worked on my car, were knowledgeable, courteous and professional, reviewing all my options and I never felt pressured.I finally have a decent car and want to take good care of it, so I am extremely happy to find such a good place to go for my auto needs.I will recommend Jiffy Lube Patchogue to all my family and friends and I will be a forever customer.
This location is such a scam !!! I called up on August 28th to get a quote for Transmission Fluid and was quoted $149.99 so I took my car in . Upon arriving I was greeted by a very friendly staff they promptly took my car in and thats when when it goes all down hill. I waited for about 2 hours as there were 4 guys doing nothing and talking to each other. After waiting an hour I ask for an update and was told my car was just about done but was I wrong. As I am waiting 1 hour passes by and then no site of anyone aside from one employee. So I ask him how much longer explaining I was told 1 hour ago my car was just about done. Then he tells me same thing 10 mins and my car was done. I go to check out and now told my total is $249.99 and I brought up that over the phone I was quoted $149.99 but they said no its $249.99 after saying I called and you quoted me $149.99 the person said since your car is newer its this price. I was tired at this point and just paid it since didnt have the energy to fight. Please do not go here !!
Slow service.I have been here a few times and I waited before giving a review . But after many times coming this Jiffy Lube is the slowest . I have waited up to 45 min to get an oil change .
They broke my oil sensor while doing a routine oil change. They then said they couldn’t fix the problem and I needed to take it to my mechanic. I took it to my mechanic he fixed it no problem. I was told a district manager would call me within 24 hours to reimburse me the money it took to fix my car. It is now 72 hours later and I have made three phone calls to the store that did it and I am still yet to hear from anybody. So taking my car to them Has cost me an extra $250 at this point with no one calling me to reimburse me. The only reason I gave them one star was because Google will not let you give them zero.
Kaleb and CJ serviced my car. Very professional and friendly. Explained everything. Answered questions. Def recommend will be coming back
This location has great service normally, since it’s mid-summer time the waits seem to be longer than usual but I love the guys who service the vehicles. They are really nice and try to do their best at giving you the best possible discounts for your car services. I would say Jiffy lube is your best bet for car services overall.
Very friendly! Easy and quick transaction.
I felt safe given the Covid situation. I got to stay in my car and they took care of my oil change in a matter of minutes. It was easy and stress free.
Im an avid customer at Jiffy Lube, Patchogue, NY 11772...since 2012.This is my favorite place to go for an oil change. I was here recently! As usual I was park in the back and I was greeted by a nice Hello from one of their hospitable personnel. It took him maybe 20 mins to finish. By far its always the quickest place to go for this particular job. Just a reminder that the waiting area is very small but it is clean and they also have a complimentary coffee that you can make yourself while waiting. So, if you are looking for a good service and less waiting time for an oil change please dont hesitate to come to this place.
Excellent service! Supervisor/ Assistant manager Leon S. Is easy to speak with as is knowledgeable. He showed me that he cared about customer service. And was personable enough to make me feel comfortable. Services were done correctly and timely. Ask 4 Leon,thats the Man that gets the job done right! Thanks guy.
Very nice guys there, not sales pushy, quick and efficient
Sent my wife to get an oil change and she comes back with a receipt for nearly 150$Over 100$ for an oil change and than they charged her to “top off her antifreeze” let me tell you this place is a bunch of scammers.. don’t give them your business nor waste your hard earned money here.. an oil change is 20$ anywhere else 30$ topsSo if you don’t know exactly the oil you need or if you don’t know about cars they will automatically charge you at least 5x more because.. you don’t know better.. shame on them!
Everyone who works there is so very helpful and nice! I am a repeat customer of this location for a reason 😊 They keep my car going at an affordable price.
Mike and Julian were awesome! Very quick and efficient with my oil change. Would highly recommend this place to anyone.
Cj was very helpful and attentive! He explained the car parts that I needed and completed the job efficiently and quickly!
Prompt and quick service. Was able to sit in my vehicle as the oil change was being performed. I was in and out in a total of 15 minutes
Id been a lifelong customer and fan of Jiffy Lube, but my last two visits were atrocious and I will not be returning. They completely missed a flat tire and in fact told me to drive a few miles, the light will turn off (it didnt.).
Just not supper efficient! But fast, its the little things that keep happening. They broke my rear window switch (on the drivers door panel). I never put down the rear windows and when I got into the car and went to leave all of the windows were half way down. The switch was broken off. When I showed the mgr he said we didnt do that. I said how did you get the window down? Did your employee open the passenger side door and lower the window from over their? Why is the broken piece right hear? on my drivers door then? He said we didnt do that it was like that when you came is. lol OK! I guess I have to fix that myself. Then they only put 4.5 quarts in my engine when they were supposed to put 5.0 plus my half a quart of Lukas Oil Treatment. Now I am uncertain if the kept my oil treatment that I provided or actually shorted me on oil. The mgr said he put the Lukas Oil Treatment in himself. So I guess I believe him. Who really knows, now now window oil change sticker that gives me the date and Millage when I have to do my next oil change. Come on guys, I have been using Jiffy Lube for too many years for this one location on route 112 in Patchogue NY to make me go somewhere else that is local and convenient for me. Please do it right!
Terrible. Will never go back. Very unhelpful and unprofessional.
Although the young men were professional, knowledgeable, and willing to help; I must say that the wait was extremely long. The definition of jiffy is done in a short time; moment. There was nothing jiffy about this oil change. There was an RV in the center bay so there were only two available lanes. I was there Sunday the 21st and arrived at the same time as another gentleman who said to me do you realize we have been here for over an hour? An oil change that is $46.26 should come with excellent customer service and a normal turnaround time. All of us there on Sunday (around 3pm) should be offered coupons for future services. Once again, the mechanics were well trained and I appreciate their assistance but the wait was not acceptable.
Excellent, specialized service. These guys changed my oil - thats it. They were FAST, knowledgeable, and PLEASANTLY PROFESSIONAL. I will definitely be using them in the future.
The only reason why I go to Jiffy Lube is for the convenience of a quick oil change. Employees never seemed to know whats going on. They know nothing out of putting fuilds into a vechical. They put water a you wish a washer tank.
Place did a great job. Thomas, George and Tom got me in and out in 20 minutes. Highly recommend them
No need to make an appointment and you can literally drive through. I do like that the staff is trained to be friendly and courteous. That makes it a more positive , enjoyable experience.
They wanted $70 for a 5 quart oil change. That is twice the price of a normal oil change.I drove 2 hundred yards further north to Johns Auto Repair and paid $35.
I needed oil change in my escalade and I just moved out east I pulled in garage guys were knowledgeable and checked existing fluids and I was on my way Ill be back soon !!!
Quick and courteous service and they dont try to sell you any services that you dont need. I will be using them for now on and I highly recommend them.
I recently had a negative experience. Part of he service includes vacuuming and checking tire pressure. Upon leaving I realized the car was not vacuumed. This was annoying. The tire pressure however is my major concern. I specifically asked the tech if the tire pressure had been checked as I was taking a road trip with my son and 2 of his friends. He told me it was and gave me a specific number. Due to the obvious fact that my car wasn’t vacuumed I did not feel comfortable until I checked myself. The tire pressure was absolutely not checked, this was not acceptable.
Great service. A bid high priced for regular oil change, $41.99 + tax. But they do inspect the car and tap off all with fluids, vacuum, lubricate, check tire pressure, and check filters (free of charge).
Adequate prices for oil change and the staff was incredibly friendly, explaining things to me efficiently and how I could understand even if I dont really know all that much about cars. Was pretty quick too given how busy it was.
Quick, professional, friendly and personable.
This morning I drove up to jiffy lube because my skid plate had fallen and was mangled all up under my car, the really nice technician unfortunately I do not remember her name but she had nice curly hair and wore glasses she was able to take it off for me and it took no less then 10 min and I was on my way, I offered money and the nice woman said it was all good I was so grateful to her!
Great Service David and his team had me in/out in no time. The 25% military discount means a lot to me and it’s all year round on your entire bill. No one else does that. Thank you David and Jiffy Lube for recognizing veterans. Semper Fi SGT Calandra USMC Veteran.
Kaleb and his team were great. You can tell the dedication that Kaleb puts in to his job.
Very poor service. I went there on a Sunday. The only car in the place. The manager ( the guy in the purple shirt) was to busy talking to his friend in the back parking lot. I waited for 20 minutes before one guy came up to me to tell me that the only other person at the shop was in the bathroom. The whole thing took over 35 minutes. Never vacuumed ( like jiffy lube always does) didnt check the tire pressure ( like jiffy lube does). I could go on and on but I think you get the idea.
Service was Fantastic!!! The Staff is Outstanding!!! Highly recommend the great staff at the Selden Jiffy Lube
The general manager, Joe and his team were excellent. Professional, courteous and efficient. Wonderful experience having my vehicle serviced here!
The staff is friendly and knowledgeable. They worked on my car quickly and efficiently. I will always go to this location.
Went in for an easy simple oil change. left with drain plug leaking and welds broken.now im not saying my truck had a good design for the drain plug threads(its spot welded in 4 places) but this shouldnt have happened. i went in for an oil change bc i didnt want to do one. i learned my lesson. i left with them telling me the last place stripped my threads(medford fast lube). how is that possible. i didnt start leaking till they touched my damn truck. anyways, i wanted my day to be easy and instead ended up having to fix the problem myself. WHICH wasnt no easy oil change.(drain oil, drop pan, re-weld threads back in place, put oil pan back on...then cotinue with rest of oil change)
Was not crazy that they vacuumed out my oil with out telling me. I would have went somewhere else for over 100 dollar oil change
Great service, honest and straight to the point, may seem a little expensive, but the take full care of your vehicle, let you know how everything is holding up and what the vehicle needs. Great service and very professional. 5/5.
Haven’t been here in forever but will come back now. The guys were super friendly and did awesome customer service
Slowest jiffy lube I have ever been too. I usually wait 15 minutes at any other jiffy lube, but at this one I had to wait a good 30 minutes. And I was the only customer there!!!!
Great service and great people. Were nice enough to let me know about the veterans discount. Didnt have to do that, I didnt bring it up. Very cool.
I went there on such a busy day thinking I’m going to spend hours there but that wasn’t the case at all I was in and out. extremely polite employees specially the manager joe g. Outstanding work efficiently throughout staff working collectively.
A little time consuming today but venue was very busy. Considering that it was fine. Have never experienced a problem with an oil change here.
They do an amazing job in Patchogue. My oil light came on when I was in Garden City and instead of stopping somewhere out there, I waited till after work so I could go to Patchogue bc they do such a great job.Very fast, professional and respectful...
Really quick. 10 minutes, in and out. Faster than McDonalds drive thru.
Like a typical mechanic joint...find out what you are paying for/getting first... negotiate clear-cut prices and services or you WILL get a surprise bill attempt
Great experience. Very professional and kind. My first time here and I’ll be back. Thank you !
They do eveything and real quick. $41. 99 consist of and they did it all fluids. air tires , vacum, and clean your windows. Great group of guys team work.
Staff was super friendly and very knowledgeable. The facility was very compliant with covid 19 guidelines and I felt safe and well cared for.
Wait was a little longer that I expected but the service was great
Can be pricey, plus they always try to upsell. Work is good and fast. Just hold your ground if you just want an oil change.
Great workers helped me out when I was short on money and told me what I needed. Totally honest great experience
Nothing but upsells and didnt add air t ok my tires or scrap off my old registration tag as they promised.
Outstanding customer service from the second I walked through the door. Kind staff who actually care about helping. Well done.
They were courteous and professional. Service was fast, everything fully explained. Definitely going back!!
Great place to change your oil dont ever go to yoru cars DEALER SHOP always go to jiffy lube!
Quick, efficient and friendly!!!
Jiffy lubes on 112 has the best personnel and is the best place to get not only an oil change, but the best maintenance for your car.
Fast and great service... if time is money for you; much more better than regular service for oil change.
Very professional and knowledgeable
They were able take my vechile and my husband’s vechile right away. Speedy and polite service! 🙂
The guys working on Saturday May 15th....they are awesome and deserve more money.
This was my 1st time at a Jiffy Lube. I will definitely be returning when its time for maintenance.
Thomas and his crew were the most efficient and helpful! Thomas is calm personality really help someone A type personality
In and out, quick work of an oil change...
I just got an oil change and on my way to work my car breaks down. 😡
Entire staff at Patchogue location was very friendly, provided excellent customer service and made the entire process hassle free. Highly recommend this location
Very professional. Quick & clean.Perhaps a bit expensive, but you get what you pay for 😊👍
The staff is very friendly! The service was quick as promised. I will definitely return.
I go there every 3 months. Right now you can sit in your car, and they change the oil.
The worst service I have ever received in my life. The level of incompetence is off the charts. Do NOT bring your car here!
Way over priced wanted to charge me 97$ for synthetic oil change then I said nope and began walking away dude say ok synthetic blend 75$ smh went right to HONDA DEALERSHIP and paid 34$ for the synthetic blend (and we all know dealership are always expensive) will never be looking towards jiffy lube again in my life ...... what a rip off place (pertaining to oil changes only)
The service was done quickly, and professionally. Very considerate. I will go back again.
Courteous and professional service
Went there today for an oil change around 4:30p and it was closed. The time online says they “close” at 7:00p. Soooo, what is the official time the place closes??
Very helpful and nice mechanic guys there
Friendly and fast service
I had a terrible experience they forgot to put my oil cap back on the engine and oil went everywhere and when I called back 5 times I didnt get a response.
Ac recharge: well done old car is super cool now!
Raised prices for no reason. To expensive and they do half the work they use to. A waste
Price was MORE than I remember, but service was very fast!
Great service, thorough, and attention to detail. Coupon discount almost always available.
Very pleasant and professional
The gentlemen were kind & they went above & beyond to give me good serice
Service was timely and expedient even with 3 cars in the bays and 4 cars lined up waiting.
Quick service in and out in less than 30 mins
Internet listing said they open at 7AM. Showed up at 8 and, although two employees saw myself and one other car, they did not open the doors.
Very quick and efficient. A significant military discount was afforded me there.
Excellent and Fast Service! Top notch Customer care with attention to details.
41.99$ for a regular 5qt oil change!?!? My dealer charges 29.99... Seemed quik tho..
Always a pleasure to visit, the service is quick and economical. And they accept coupons off your phone.
Quick in and out. Great service from these guys.
Thomas was super helpful. He advised me about a potential problem and gave me tips on how to move forward.
Was given false information about what type of oil my car had to take, and was charged for services not rendered
Quick service, great customer service. Very helpful.
Great service go hear for oil change exp. Wont go for anything expect that. Hot guus toooo!
Super quick. Everyone was friendly and professional.
Worst oil change experience ever. Save yourself the trip don’t come here
They left my hood open almost caused an accident.
Quick, fast and easy to get an oil change.
Always friendly, never pushy. Knowledgeable and excellent customer service.
They were good did a good job and very nice 🤘
Fast, clean and friendly service. Thanks, guys! Ill be back again.
Great service and staff. I have never had an issue.
Went there when there own worker pulled my car in they ripped my exhaust off bent the bar and cracked it they claim they are not responsible and i have to fix it on my own dime.
Well-managed outstanding service recommend 2 all
Great customer service ability.
Friendly Staff, good prices and services. Will repeat
Friendly staff, knowledgeable and fast service.
Very fast, professional service.
A bit pricey. Always tries to do more than just an oil change.
Tires needed air AFTER I left. Windows were dirtier then when I drove in. POOR ATTENTION TO DETAILS.
Good service but price wasnt so much!
It was a little busy buy they kept the lines moving and clean polite and professional.
Great work and always professional
Acceptable but not exceptional service, short on customer service skills.
Excellent service Fast reliable and efficient
The staff was very nice and extremely helpful.
The staff did a excellent job
They were quick and very efficient.
Patchogue location always has awesome people working there!
Honest reliable and quick jiffy is spiffy 😂.
Did a great job and was in and out in 30 min
Kaleb was awesome everything was fast an efficient
Fast and professional but probably the most expensive option.
Always quick and courteous service
Quick service. Very friendly crew.
Staff were efficient and friendly!
Best oil change service around!
Did not have to wait for line, fast service.
I love staying in my van
Did not force me to buy extra services. friendly staff
Very nice employees :)
Best jiffy lube Ive been to.
Fast & Professional. Cant ask for me more.
They were very helpful
The nicest people. .it was quick and easy...
Fast and reliable, friendly staff
Samantha. Good quick service
Quick, efficient service.
Topped off my oil for me.
Fast, friendly service!
Its a Jiffy lube..nothing more nothing less
Professional caring and quick
People who work here are nice
Good job
Ok place fast service
Quick and efficient
Good but pricey
Great service.
Very accommodating crew!
Fast, great service!
Very quick services
Had to wait 1 and hours
Good service
Great customer service
Quick kind and efficient
They checked the diff well
Nicer
Excellent service! 😄
Total reviews rating 4.3
199 Reviews for Jiffy Lube 2023:
Review №1
2022-04-12Usually Im nervous to take my car to places like this for a basic oil change but the dudes working there were very cool and did a great job. Refilled all my fluids checked my tires and was in and out within 20 minutes. Would definitely recommend.
Review №2
2022-03-19Just got a synthetic Oil Change by CJ and Caleb over at this location, I barely waited, they were quick and clean, polite and respectful! What a great experience, I will definitely be back for another oil change, how delightful to be in and out. These guys had great skills and communication. Excellent job!
Review №3
2022-05-11Great service. Staff was exceptionally courteous and what is more impressive is how respectful they were to one another while performing the service on my vehicle, by communicating with please and thank you s.
Review №4
2022-06-27Horrible...sat in line as the next in line for 25 min before anyone directed me which bay to wait in...then tried to charge me 58$ after a 13$ coupon for a conventional oil change!!! Since when is a regular oil change $73??... Then I told them that four months ago it was $45 they were not happy about it but somehow my bill came back down to $45 ...funny....bunch of kids standing around smoking and goofing off....last time there for sure
Review №5
2022-08-06No wait, very pleasant mechanics. Kind and professional and always very thorough. This jiffy lube has been here for a very long time and I’ve been coming back for 15 plus years now.
Review №6
2022-08-12Definitely quick and pleasant experience. All 3 men are friendly, courteous and a pleasure with great attitudes and positive vibes.
Review №7
2022-03-15The guys were very nice and quick. I would recommend them although, I only got an oil change and my tires checked. I will go again.
Review №8
2022-03-04I got my oil changed at this location today and the staff was very friendly. As someone who is ignorant to all things car stuff, I get anxious about oil changes. But it was a great experience and I did not get taken advantage of which I’m always worried about due to said ignorance lol but very happy! Thanks!
Review №9
2022-05-20I was able to drive in and get my oil change with no real wait time with no muss and no fuss.
Review №10
2021-12-27Terrible experience. Would not recommend. A calamity of errors combined with over the top rudeness. I cannot say enough about how bad the service and customer relations were.This WAS my go to spot for oil changes, but that all changed in one extremely disappointing visit.Still waiting for a call from the business manager responsible for this location.I did receive a call, and had a nice conversation, with the regional manager, who assured me the location manager would be in contact. Not.